Dennis the dummy (AKA Dennis Marks, AKA dmarks) recently made the following false statement regarding single payer...
Dennis Marks: Considering that Obama has himself said that that is ultimate goal is complete control of the healthcare system. (4/13/2014 AT 07:16:00 AM EDT). |
First of all, the healthcare system includes doctors and hospitals. The only healthcare system that the government has complete control over is the VA. Under that system the government employs the doctors, pays their salaries, and owns the hospitals. Single payer is government insurance and does NOT entail government employment of all doctors or ownership of all hospitals.
Single payer is in no way what-so-ever "complete control of the healthcare system". But the dummy Dennis continues to argue that it is even when another commenter calls him on his BS. In fact he argues it much more stridently, insisting that "the fact is that single payer is complete central control over health care. Being in favor of it DOES mean it is your goal. That's a fact, not opinion".
Actually, this is not a fact or an opinion. It is a statement that is completely false. If Dennis had said the president favored complete control over the healthcare INSURANCE system, then I might acknowledge he was a little closer to the truth - although I'd still disagree because the existence of a single payer system does not mean that private insurers are barred from competing.
I'd be in favor of private insurance being allowed to exist - and I think Obama would too. So single payer is NOT "complete control" of the HC insurance system (even though it COULD be). And Obama has never said he wanted "complete control", only that he favors single payer.
In any case, Dennis said the healthcare system and NOT the healthcare INSURANCE system, so he's flat out lying. Or so obtuse as to not get the distinction (and the distinction is significant).
Finally Dennis links to the video below and claims that, in it, Obama saying he favors single payer is the same as Obama advocating for "complete control". Dennis claims that his quotation fabrication is a "paraphrase".
Ah, no. It's Dennis showing us all how dumb he is. Anyway, according to Dennis it's a difference of opinion regarding "whether or not this type of control is good or bad". I'd say it's good, if we're only discussing single payer, and not debating nonsense about SP being "complete control" when it isn't.
And I'd say SP is good because it puts WE THE PEOPLE in charge instead of the for-profit healthcare insurance industry which is ONLY interested in making profit... as opposed to helping people live healthy productive lives - which is what healthcare SHOULD be all about.
But cutting out the middlemen who want to screw us over for profit is obviously what Dennis objects to. These are the rich leeches Dennis wants to have "complete control" and Dennis' lies about calling him on his BS involving "ignoring meanings and words" and that "one can say [Dennis] stretched it" is NOT a matter of opinion.
"One cannot say I made it up" Dennis claims. But he did make it up. Single payer is not "complete control". Also, Obama only said he favored SP and NEVER fought for it as he SHOULD HAVE. The way it is now the for-profit insurers still wield too much control. Control they are using to screw customers with ridiculous rate increases. A little less ridiculous thanks to the ACA, but still we're paying a lot more than other countries that have (and love) SP.