Dennis Marks Anti-Choice Extremist Dipshittery Re Planned Parenthood "Chopping Up Kids And Selling The Pieces"

This commentary concerns serious dipshittery from the anti-choice extremist Dennis Marks (AKA dmarks) in regards to the recent flap over the Planned Parenthood deceptively-edited and illegally-filmed videos. A comment that contains many factual inaccuracies and well as a revelation that Dennis is on the side of those who want to defund PP. (the War on Women side).

Dennis Marks: I read that this is all OK because the money that PP is making chopping up kids and selling the pieces is not enough for them to make a profit. A real weak defense. If we use this logic, we can excuse any other corporation for any sort of malfeasance if it is not making a profit (i.e. bungling business practices, poor management) at that time. Too bad the Hyde Amendment, put in place to stop the government from being involved in the business of harming the young, isn't interpreted to such direct subsidy to the abortion industry. But the funding could end up in danger. Remember ACORN, the election fraud scam, that got cut off finally. (7/31/2015 AT 12:31pm).

Wrong. The "defense" is not that the money they are paid is "not enough for them to make a profit", it is that they are legally prohibited from making a profit. And they are not.

But Dennis is obviously completely oblivious to why PP is "selling" the fetal tissue to begin with, what the law says, or that the Center for Medical Progress (the anti-abortion group that released the videos) is alleging there is profit involved.

Which they are alleging. But they're lying.

The president of Planned Parenthood [Cecile Richards] said her organization's clinics never adjust the abortion procedure to better preserve fetal organs for medical research and that the organization's charges cover only the cost of transmission to researchers. ... The videos were part of longer discussions, and Richards said the longer videos showed doctors repeatedly saying that Planned Parenthood does not profit from the tissue donations. (Planned Parenthood president says group doesn't profit from fetal organ research by Kevin Freking. Associated Press 7/26/2015).

Of course Dennis makes his allegations of "malfeasance" based on ZERO knowledge of the law or why it exists... which is because this tissue is necessary for medical research.

"This is actually laudable, that women and their families choose to make fetal tissue donations in order to potentially save the lives of other folks", Cecile Richards says (as quoted in the article excerpted above).

How exactly fetal tissue is used for medicine (excerpt from a 7/17/2015 CNN article by Carina Storrs) Fetal tissue has been used since the 1930s for vaccine development, and more recently to help advance stem cell research and treatments for degenerative diseases such as Parkinson's disease. Researchers typically take tissue samples from a fetus that has been aborted (under conditions permitted by law) and grow cells from the tissue in Petri dishes. One of the earliest advances with fetal tissue was to use fetal kidney cells to create the first poliovirus vaccines, which are now estimated to save 550,000 lives worldwide every year. There are also a number of clinical research studies that are investigating whether transplanting different types of fetal tissue into patients could help them recover from diseases, similar to the practice of organ donation. One such study is testing fetal eye (retinal) tissue as a possible treatment for retinitis pigmentosa, a disease that can lead to blindness.

So we're probably talking about millions of lives saved. I bet that, if all the benefits to society that have been gained by this research suddenly vanished (along with the people whose lives were saved), Dennis (as well as the "Center for Medical Progress" idiots) would beg for PP to "chop up kids" in order to get these benefits and lives back.

And, remember that, if the harvesting of fetal tissue for research were outlawed, abortion would still be legal. So all that valuable (for research) tissue would simply go in the trash. But, of course these nuts want to outlaw abortion. They're simply trying to shock people with this LEGAL issue of the sale (at no profit) of the tissue for research. Shock them by lying about PP making a profit, which they are not. And that is the very important "excuse", as that is the law... YOU MORON DENNIS!

As for this business that "harms the young" that Dennis refers to... no such business exists. One of the functions of the non-profit organization PP, is to provide a legal medical procedure to women who elect or require it. Zygotes and fetuses may be "young", but they have yet to be born (which may not even be possible for medical reasons) and don't have the same rights as a born person. Dennis may disagree with the law (even though I've never seen him say he thinks abortion should be illegal), but that law, as it currently stands, says abortion (with some limitations) is legal.

Dennis is utilizing "appeal to emotion", which "is a logical fallacy characterized by the manipulation of the recipient's emotions in order to win an argument, especially in the absence of factual evidence". The factual evidence that is absent here is that PP is doing anything illegal.

And it's a really good thing that the Hyde Amendment, which was put in place to appease anti-choicers by stopping the government from being involved in assisting lower-income women get the medical care they require, isn't interpreted as a direct subsidy to the "abortion industry". Even though this "industry" doesn't exist. But if the Hyde Amendment were interpreted that way... it would be really bad for lower-income women. Because the result would be an increase in back alley abortions and women dying because of them. As well as women dying due to complications/complicated pregnancies.

But poor women dying is not something radical anti-choicers like Dennis care about. F*ck those women. They made bad life choices (being poor) and deserve to die. This is the mindset of those like Dennis... make no mistake about it. A mindset I disagree with strongly. Which is why I support getting rid of it. It's "too bad" the Hyde amendment exists at all, IMO.

But it does exist and it does prevent any of PP's federal monies from going toward paying for any abortions. Which is why PP subsidizes abortion services for poor women via private donations. Zero federal dollars are used to fund abortions... which represents 3 percent of what PP does, despite another liar on the comment thread (the one I pulled Dennis' comment from) saying "performing abortions are by far the majority of their services". No, sorry, that's a lie. (a lie repeated by O'Reilly in the video below).

As is this second comment from Dennis. A lie. Actually, this one is FILLED with lies.

Dennis Marks: The abortion industry thrives on people not knowing what they do. PP is very extreme, and greedy: they demand tax money to to be used to harm unborn children all the way up to newborns. It's run by sickos who get their jollies killing as many of the unborn as possible. Do they need to engage in their deadly sadism on the public dime? (7/31/2015 AT 12:33pm).

PP provides critical women's health services across the US to needy and lower-income women. That is the OPPOSITE of "sadism". PP is doing good work that I, as a Christian, support fully. Dennis is the one who does not know what PP does. As I pointed out above, the idiocy that spews from his pie-hole thrives on this extraordinary ignorance.

Killing a newborn would be murder, btw. And it is something no PP doctor has EVER (as far as I know) been charged with. (Kermit Gosnell, an abortion doctor who was convicted of murdering three infants who were born alive during attempted abortion procedures and sentenced to life in prison, did not work for PP).

Video: Juan Williams acts as the voice of reason VS 2 other Fox dumb-dumbs who have no idea what Planned Parenthood does or how Obamacare Works. Video from Media Matters (8:11).

Update 8/2/2015: In regards to Dennis referring to the alleged ACORN "election fraud scam"... Dennis is lying, as usual. See my debunking of his baloney here. (SWTD #300: ACORN Target Of GOP Lies Because They Registered Voters).

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